“What's the value of being smart if you aren't an honest person?” rhetorically asks Professor Winarno, also commonly known as the Indonesian Father of Food Science and Technology.

A simple point that hints at the principle and wisdom he passes down as a legacy to his next generations. Grit, perseverance, determination – all in the wake of redirection when plans don’t turn out as expected.

Joining him on this SukkhaCitta Changemaker episode is his grandson and recurring member of our community, Dr. Driando Ahnan-Winarno, also the co-founder and CTO of Better Nature Tempeh. The two sit down to reflect on the life events and experiences that have led them to where they are today. Regaling stories of their past and how it all intertwines with the very idea of purpose and reconnection.